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    Hello everyone.. i have a question about the status of AMS.. although AMS is a great software for rapid application development however a lot of request in request section havent address yet, and its already 2020, i dont know what year since the version 8 release but maybe its time to make an update it right? Also no further anouncement from the company if the software is going to update or its already stop its support for further development?


    What do you think guys?

    Thank you so much

  • #2
    Latest version (or update) came in 2018:

    https://forums.indigorose.com/forum/...ilable-8-5-3-0

    As you mention, despite it is not up-to-date it remains a tool for QUICKLY developing applications, like no other.

    David

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    • #3
      Originally posted by daviz View Post
      Latest version (or update) came in 2018:

      https://forums.indigorose.com/forum/...ilable-8-5-3-0

      As you mention, despite it is not up-to-date it remains a tool for QUICKLY developing applications, like no other.

      David
      I don't agree. Visual Studio 2019 (Community, Professional or Enterprise) with C# is just as rapid, with .NET and .NET Core having way more functionality. Besides that, there is PureBasic
      Bas Groothedde
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      • #4
        Originally posted by daviz View Post
        Latest version (or update) came in 2018:

        https://forums.indigorose.com/forum/...ilable-8-5-3-0

        As you mention, despite it is not up-to-date it remains a tool for QUICKLY developing applications, like no other.

        David
        yeah understand, but the update is just a fixed on small list of things. Like application development software they are updated every now and then..
        when was the time AMS becomes version 8.5? and now its 2020...




        Imagine Programming
        visual studio 2019 great tool also.. im thinking for a RAD Studio also. What do you think?
        because if found that AMS or Indigo no anouncement if they will going to have a major update.. a lot of things mentioned in suggestion section which is very helpful i believe..
        also want to have a darkmode of environment like the visual studio you have.

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        • #5
          I believe, with no other authority than my little personal experience, that what made AMS so approachable was the combination of: ease of use and Lua. As a graphic designer I care a lot for visuals so starting to code was a hard process and required a shift of mindset, which would have taken longer had I not used AMS.
          Last year, I was advised to learn C# and Visual Studio...powerful combo? No doubt. Easy to grasp? Not at all.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by daviz View Post
            I believe, with no other authority than my little personal experience, that what made AMS so approachable was the combination of: ease of use and Lua. As a graphic designer I care a lot for visuals so starting to code was a hard process and required a shift of mindset, which would have taken longer had I not used AMS.
            Last year, I was advised to learn C# and Visual Studio...powerful combo? No doubt. Easy to grasp? Not at all.
            Then why was the popularity dropped? People have found other solutions, like a C# WinForms / WPF application (with the visual designer), that did stay up to date and could do a lot more. I'm not an advocate for C# here, I never cared about the programming language, but I do care about a stable environment.

            AMS simply is lacking in stability, security and progression. It has a visual environment, but so do a lot of other environments. It used to be true that the learning curve for AMS was a lot less than for other tools, but that is no longer the case. You say it is not easy to grasp, however you also mention having little personal experience; maybe that lack of experience is clouding your judgement.

            AMS used to be awesome, I enjoyed developing plugins for it a great deal and I still use Lua on a daily basis (it's part of my job as C++ software engineer) - but it's not the easiest per se. It's all relative, I guess.
            Bas Groothedde
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            • #7
              Originally posted by telco View Post
              Imagine Programming
              visual studio 2019 great tool also.. im thinking for a RAD Studio also. What do you think?
              because if found that AMS or Indigo no anouncement if they will going to have a major update.. a lot of things mentioned in suggestion section which is very helpful i believe..
              also want to have a darkmode of environment like the visual studio you have.
              You can try out Visual Studio 2019 Community. It's free for developing non-commercial applications. Follow a few tutorials, try a few example projects you find on Stack Overflow or CodeProject and see what you think. As you say, there are other solutions as well - try them all and see what you like most.
              Bas Groothedde
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Imagine Programming View Post

                It's all relative, I guess.
                You are right. I will also mention choosing the right tool for the job at hand.
                I am working on a project where I need to extract text from PDF and perform operations on pages and found that Python has libraries for that. There are IDEs (like Visual Studio or VCode) to make process faster.
                By the way Python has a lot in common with Lua.

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                • #9
                  C# and vs 2019 ...ok their online help from microsoft is a **** of cluster**** to located x area to learn with, its not always easy to manage their tree-mode archive you can get lost and not always is easy to learn. If they could have done a better sorting and management for online help files maybe things (Im not talking about learning only this is another thing for the newcomer should keep in mind when coming from other environment or language) could be more easy to read and understand, also their explanations aobut what is x or y are not always very comprehensive...But hey Microsoft rules over many people who uses it because many people buys and uses thier tech and language...If they were a unknow or not a big company as is it Microsoft at worldwide, maybe they could have put some interest in doing these things but not, for what to do this? its a big company and prepotency is their usual attitude. Instead doing research help file online you had to search over the internet searchin' for guides, manuals etc...

                  C# and visual studio 2019 are very strong language that could do kinda all ams does but not in short time for doing the task what you do in ams....long learning curve, long time to develope many many lines of codes and other withdraw there, for me is unattractiveness, unless you feel "forced" to use their tech knowing these disadvantages....Its my two cents don bite

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                  • #10
                    I believe developing software as means for mantaining a company is hard. A lot of software that used to be acquired perpetually moved to rental license (like Adobe products). Free or cheaper alternatives arise, however it is not easy to move on.
                    We can find A LOT of alternatives to AMS but in any case it would require a learning curve, whether small or big it is time investment. For instance, it took me a whole month to learn Mysql because SQlite didn´t do what I needed. Now imagine learning a whole new software (or a new programming language)! And then you have to become proficient in it.
                    Sometimes there is no other way but to adapt to changes. Is this the case of AMS?

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                    • #11
                      Microsoft has everything related to the Windows API, Visual Studio, .NET (Core/Framework/Standard) documented to such detail that you can get lost in it, yes; but a well targeted Google search often gets me where I need to be in the first attempt.
                      Bas Groothedde
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