Pretty Dissapointed

[bule]

7.1 is the initial release, AFAIK.

[Radioguy]

Speaking of minor patches my new apms7 just updated to 7.1. Anyone know what it fixed or upgraded?


Cheers

[cgirolet]

my opinion about this upgrade

i've just upgraded to ams 7.0 (from 6) and as others i like the additions (having more features is always a good thing) and of course there are things that are not included that i miss
- no image related actions like resize/resample convert
- no datagrid object (except as a plugin)
- no way to attach a file to an email without uuencoding it,

but i still put my full confidence in indigorose and as brett said i will wait and see, if at the end of the year i see that i got nothing but minor fixes here and there then i will not renew otherwise i will

ams 7 is very young to judge it if it was worth the upgrade or not, let time passes and see what happens before firing at indigorose, i'm using ams since 2.0 and it did well in many occasions, keep on the good work guys, we're still behind you

claude

[Tuberculosis]

But with the lack of new features in v7, I am quite shy to go to a subscription plan and keep waiting and waiting for the real features all of us are wanting. But if I know something is planned and being worked on, I have no problem forking out the cash.

I'm with another company that uses the "subscription" model and they are lazy... they know they are getting their money so updates are thrown together in a fashion that leaves you baffled. You can't not pay the subscription, because if you do you have to pay the years you missed plus the current year... and if you miss two years, you have to pay full retail.

Terrible subscription plan from www.OutStart.com

So in other words, you keep paying, every year, no matter what. I've been told by IR that they are not going to have a subscription like this though... hopefully they won't... it is not a good model to follow.... I do look forward to more updates throught the year, but that might make it seem as if you are not really getting anything special for your money... they would have to keep some great change logs...

[Intrigued]

Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to give my input on this thread. I still haven't upgraded to v7 - not because of the money, but because there hasn't been any new features in v7 that have made me want to upgrade. I'm able to do everything just fine in v6. When/if the time comes, I'm sure I'll upgrade.

Honestly, I'm okay with the subscription model. $149/yr isn't that much and worth it compared to what I get out of AMS. But what I'd really like to see is a product roadmap with planned features. Even better, would be a voting model where all of us could ask for what we want most.

But with the lack of new features in v7, I am quite shy to go to a subscription plan and keep waiting and waiting for the real features all of us are wanting. But if I know something is planned and being worked on, I have no problem forking out the cash.

Thanks - comments from IR are welcome!

Just out of curiosity, which feature(s), would get you to buy?

[eric_darling]

I'm not convinced that a roadmap of any sort would be beneficial (or fair to ask of IR). Times change and so does the context in which the idea for a feature came about. I honestly think that we can't expect IR to run their company like a Democracy. For them to provide a voting model would be folly. Perhaps a multiple choice question, where they really want specific input, but I've always known this company to seek out and integrate the ideas of their users. Personally speaking, I know they always issue features that have real application for me. Nothing new in version 7 is superfluous. Are some items more useful than others? Yes, and then, maybe some will inspire new ways of doing tasks that used to require creative workarounds.

At the same time that IR introduced a less robust upgrade, they also introduced a less robust price point. I think that's fair. This is hardly the end of the AMS road, and even though we don't have a map, we've got a pretty good set of tools to get us where we need to go.

[Buffman]

my 2 cents

Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to give my input on this thread. I still haven't upgraded to v7 - not because of the money, but because there hasn't been any new features in v7 that have made me want to upgrade. I'm able to do everything just fine in v6. When/if the time comes, I'm sure I'll upgrade.

Honestly, I'm okay with the subscription model. $149/yr isn't that much and worth it compared to what I get out of AMS. But what I'd really like to see is a product roadmap with planned features. Even better, would be a voting model where all of us could ask for what we want most.

But with the lack of new features in v7, I am quite shy to go to a subscription plan and keep waiting and waiting for the real features all of us are wanting. But if I know something is planned and being worked on, I have no problem forking out the cash.

Thanks - comments from IR are welcome!

[PeterLiberty]

True, true!
If it was easy IR would have done this by now, i'm sure.

hmm, maybe Adobe should ditch the ActionScript idea and change to LuaScript. If we shout loud enough maybe we can get them to change it ... just for us!! :yes :lol

More importantly, there are licensing costs... and Adobe's are quite prohibitive. LUA is free and can be used in commercial application at no cost.

[bule]

hmm, maybe Adobe should ditch the ActionScript idea and change to LuaScript. If we shout loud enough maybe we can get them to change it ... just for us!! :yes :lol

Lol, Adobe embraces Lua very much (they are one of the bigger Lua sponsors and extensively use Lua in many projects, including their Photoshop Lightroom), however that what you are talking about will definitely never happen. There are a way many Flash developers out there than APMS ones that need this export option. Change their language? No freaking way...

[Derek]

True, true!
If it was easy IR would have done this by now, i'm sure.

hmm, maybe Adobe should ditch the ActionScript idea and change to LuaScript. If we shout loud enough maybe we can get them to change it ... just for us!! :yes :lol

[bule]

lol .. how long has that been rattling around? If we all shout loud enough, they might just bless us with such a feature. :yes

I think it's just too complex to convert LUA scripts tu ActionScript, so I find this feature very tricky to implement.

[Derek]

did someone say output to SWF???

lol .. how long has that been rattling around? If we all shout loud enough, they might just bless us with such a feature. :yes

[eric_darling]

I, too, considered not upgrading to 7, but I found it hard to resist with the deal that's expiring on Friday for existing users of version 6. For $149 USD, let's look at what you get... A whole new version (perhaps less major than former major version releases, but still, several important new and improved features as have been discussed here). Plus, upgrades for a whole year. If, at the end of that year period, I feel like another subscription payment isn't worth it, I still get to keep this version. Furthermore, $149 is considerably less than what it cost to buy former major version upgrades. So, it's probably about right, and a fair offer.

I bought the upgrade today, with no immediate need to use the software, but one coming a month or so down the pike. It's nice to know I'll have the power of the new version and the continued support of the IR team at that point.

There is the secondary (my opinion) issue of the scope of upgraded features in 7 vs. 6. I have to admit, it's slightly less new-feature-rich than former versions. So, in that sense I was also less impressed. However, the RTF object is so critical, and the page/object scaling feature so necessary, that I think it's a base-line need. This is the problem with setting the bar so high as a software development company - your customers come to expect a lot on every release!

I have to say good work to IR for finding an appropriate business model for this now very mature software product. I believe great new features are still in store for us users down the line, and I can only hope that I get to see some before my year of covered upgrades runs out. (did someone say output to SWF???)

[Radioguy]

Yep, just upgraded today and the first thing I did was convert a project I released in V6.5 and it imported flawlessly.

Now to delve into the features and yes, azmanar, I noticed the speed up...unless it's all the coffee I'm consuming lately

[Intrigued]

I recommend AMS 7 for those looking to buy for the first time or if you are looking to upgrade. Nothing in life is a "sure thing", but Indigo Rose Corporation has earned my trust and I have full confidence in their employees and plan of action, with regards to the AMS platform, customer service, and overall their professionalism.

I also would not stress out to much about it. Things like this seem "bigger than they are" in the near-term. As in a bigger problem than they really are. It'll work out in the end. Lets just keep giving them any bugs we find, via posts here in the proper area of the forum and any suggestions we have not seen recommended before.

Good luck with those AMS projects!